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Religious People Have The Morals of Rats – Rick Perry: “I’ve Never Struggled’ With Risk Of Executing Innocent Person”

by Ben Hoffman

From the debate last night:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: “Governor Perry, a question about Texas. Your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times. Have you…”

[The religious assholes applaud]

“Have you struggled to sleep at night with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent?”

PERRY: “No, sir. I’ve never struggled with that at all. The state of Texas has a very thoughtful, a very clear process in place of which — when someone commits the most heinous of crimes against our citizens, they get a fair hearing, they go through an appellate process, they go up to the Supreme Court of the United States, if that’s required.”

It’s very likely that Perry executed an innocent man, but that doesn’t bother him at all. In case you haven’t heard of the case of Cameron Todd Willingham, read this.

There are other cases where the executed man was proven innocent and one case involved a mentally retarded man. But Perry, with his religious morals, doesn’t have a problem with it. We atheists do.

Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:04 PM in Economy, Education, Opinion, Politics, Religion, Science, U.S. News   |  RSS feed |   Reply   |   Trackback URL

49 Comments to “Religious People Have The Morals of Rats – Rick Perry: “I’ve Never Struggled’ With Risk Of Executing Innocent Person””

    
  1. Cry and Howl
    September 9, 2011 at 1:33 AM

    At least the majority of those executed were guilty. 230 for sure guilty with only a couple maybe not guilties isn’t bad… better safe than sorry.
    I don’t see any link or source for your claim that a proven innocent was executed in Texas.

    Reply
    • Ben Hoffman
      September 9, 2011 at 8:31 AM

      At least the majority of those executed were guilty. 230 for sure guilty with only a couple maybe not guilties isn’t bad… better safe than sorry.

      Yeah, most of them were guilty. What the hell if a few innocents were killed. They’re just collateral damage.

      The link is there for the innocent man. You just can’t read, ya freakin’ retard. 🙂

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  2. Cry and Howl
    September 9, 2011 at 10:50 AM

    I read your stupid link! There’s not a word about his innocence or guilt beyond the caption under the picture. The whole article was simply the story about the fire and the investigators. Jeez.
    Nothing wrong with a little collateral damage … don’t go raping and killing the good people of Texas and you’ll be okay.

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  3. TD
    September 9, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    This is hilarious Mr. Hoffman. Liberals preaching about morality???
    Love it. So murdering unborn children is ok but capital punishment is wrong??
    And again your use of the word “religious people” is quite interesting. Please provide your definition of “religious people”.
    Are you referring to Christians as a whole? Mormons? Jewish people?

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    • Ben Hoffman
      September 9, 2011 at 2:35 PM

      Fetuses aren’t children.

      Please provide your definition of “religious people”.

      Hate filled assholes like you.

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      • truelogic
        September 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM

        God had no problem killing children or fetuses. In fact, God is the reason we have abortion to this day.
        Scripture tells us that “yet ALL is of God”. All would include things like abortion. God is the one that approves a “time for EVERY matter and EVERY event”. Can’t get any clearer than that. God approves when an abortion will take place and the exact time. Praise God…the moral one.

        In face, God stated: “I create evil…”. and we know that God is the potter that creates a vessel for “dishonor”. So you see, God gave us the Christian child rapist that populate the Christian churches.

      • truelogic
        September 11, 2011 at 6:36 AM

        I haven’t noticed a band of atheist or agnostics going around in the name of their belief to torture, burn alive, murder others. But history does demonstrate Christians and Muslims have not problem with such things.

      • The Arbourist
        September 11, 2011 at 7:51 AM

        Fetuses aren’t children.

        Quoted for Truth.

    • truelogic
      September 11, 2011 at 6:30 AM

      Read your bible or for that matter, read a bit about religious history. Look at the number of Christians guilty of raping children. Look at the Catholic Church. Some of the most disgusting and vile acts against children are perpetrated by an establishment that claims to be the voice of morality.

      In fact, the Christian God drowned most all life on earth, to include children and the child in the womb of the mother, in his flood of love.

      Isaiah 13:16
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.

      Isaiah 13:18
Their bows will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants nor will they look with compassion on children.

      Hosea 9:16
”Ephraim is blighted, their root is withered, they yield no fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay their cherished offspring.”

      But let us not just point the finger at Christians, they just happen to be some of the worse.

      Reply
  4. Anonymous
    September 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM

    Did you do that intentionally Ben?
    If not, it was hilarious.

    Reply
  5. Ed Darrell
    September 11, 2011 at 2:53 AM

    If Perry isn’t bothered by execution of innocents, why has he moved mountains and the deserts of Texas to try to cover it up? See the Texas Observer: http://www.texasobserver.org/reviews/legal-lynching?tmpl=component&print=1

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  6. Alan Scott
    September 11, 2011 at 1:02 PM

    truelogic,

    ” I haven’t noticed a band of atheist or agnostics going around in the name of their belief to torture, burn alive, murder others. ”

    How quickly you forget . I’m not sure, was Hitler an atheist or an agnostic ? Anyway that guy and his merry band of murderers went around in the name of their belief, the thousand Year Reich, and tortured and murdered. And then there was old Joe Stalin. He was certainly no right wing Christian. Ask the Ukrainians or Poles about his murdering and torturing.

    Come on if you search your memory I’m sure you can come up with more atheists and agnostics yourself .

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    • The Arbourist
      September 11, 2011 at 1:34 PM

      I’m not sure, was Hitler an atheist or an agnostic ?

      You see Mr.Scott here is where the curious individual would go and check for facts before trotting out any more arguments that may or may not have a basis in reality.

      Sadly…

      AS:Anyway that guy and his merry band of murderers went around in the name of their belief…

      *sigh*

      Reply
    • Ben Hoffman
      September 11, 2011 at 11:19 PM

      Hitler may not have been religious, but he certainly used religion to carry out his atrocities, just like Bush and bin Laden.

      Reply
    • Moe
      September 12, 2011 at 12:57 AM

      Hitler was a CAtholic. He briefly attended seminary, hoping to become a priest. But he found a ‘higher’ calling.

      Reply
  7. Alan Scott
    September 12, 2011 at 5:33 AM

    Being raised religious and then what you become later are different. Many here were raised religious and now attack religion constantly. So you guys are telling me that AH was still a Catholic when he was rampaging across Europe ?

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  8. Alan Scott
    September 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM

    Mr. Hoffman,

    The question is not whether he used religion. The question is whether he personally believed in God. I call him an agnostic. He both attacked and praised Religion depending on the times. The only reason he could not be called an Atheist is because his mortal enemy Joe Stalin was an Atheist. The two greatest monsters of their century were an agnostic and an atheist. Adolf got married and then proceeded to blow his brains out. Logically he did not believe he would face judgement by God in the next life, or he was setting an example for all married men.

    Like all good agnostics he was married in a civil ceremony..

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    • Ben Hoffman
      September 12, 2011 at 10:56 AM

      That makes sense. People who truly believe in some imaginary “god” tend to be followers. They accept things on faith alone and dictators use their gullibility to gain power, such as Hitler did. There have been brutal Christian dictators such as Pinochet, and you have the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch hunts, and many other atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. Bush killed 100s of thousands of Iraqis because he thought god told him to and his father murdered thousands of Panamanians.

      And of course, all the acts of terrorism committed in the name of Allah, which is the same imaginary god as the Christian imaginary god.

      Reply
  9. Moe
    September 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM

    OUr friends in the tea party proved their moral depravity again last night, chanting ‘Let him die” when Ron Paul was going all ‘take personal responsiblity’ about health care.

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  10. paul gibson
    September 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM

    God bless Texas

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  11. paul gibson
    September 15, 2011 at 3:41 PM

    Wow. You guys have a bad taste in your mouth about God. I would like to apologize on behalf of the Christian community for showing God in a bad light. I feel ashamed that Christians make it so difficult to love God or even be tolerant of God if one chooses not to believe. The death penalty is of man for man. Laws can be changed as well as enacted by the people. To sight God as a reason for or against a law is not the way to approach it. If you are against or for something then sight the reasons why you are. The words “I believe” are more effective than “God says” when it comes to politics. “God says” can be reserved for church where it will be received in reverence.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      September 15, 2011 at 4:02 PM

      I really don’t care what you believe in, but when people try to make laws in the name of “God,” that’s where I draw the line. Theocracies are always bad. I doubt there has ever been a theocracy where the people weren’t oppressed by a dictator.

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    • The Arbourist
      September 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM

      You guys have a bad taste in your mouth about God.

      Well considering all the bullshit that flows from god or is approved by her, shouldn’t you as well as a decent human being?

      Reply
  12. paul gibson
    September 15, 2011 at 4:23 PM

    Thats kind of what i said… I think your just an angry person. The beliefs of people.. yours and mine are kind of what Government is…..isn’t it? to say you don’t care what someone believes undermines your right to state what you believe.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      September 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

      I think you’re an angry person who has some kind of irrational need to believe in the supernatural.

      Reply
      • paul gibson
        September 16, 2011 at 9:41 AM

        Apparently you forfeited your right to believe or “think” anything when you stated “you don’t care what people believe” I said nothing out of anger and I find it sad that you’re upset because one chooses to believe in something bigger than themselves. Why should you care? In no way did I push that on you yet you try so hard to make me feel dumb for my thought process. All I was saying is the death penalty has nothing to do with God nor should it ever have anything to do with God. (The same thing you are saying)….RIGHT?

      • Ben Hoffman
        September 16, 2011 at 9:49 AM

        Obviously you’re angry or you wouldn’t keep coming back to tell me that you’re not. 🙂

      • paul gibson
        September 16, 2011 at 9:59 AM

        you didn’t answer my question Ben

  13. paul gibson
    September 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM

    beside I did not say “I believe IN” I said “I believe”

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  14. paul gibson
    September 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM

    I thought this was going to be a place with intelligent conversation… I BELIEVE I’ll go somewhere else now.

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  15. Alan Scott
    September 17, 2011 at 7:08 AM

    paul gibson,

    ” I thought this was going to be a place with intelligent conversation ”

    What were you thinking ? You should have said you came here for laughs .

    Reply
  16. Alan Scott
    September 18, 2011 at 8:06 AM

    The Arbourist ,

    I have found a couple of other liberal websites to get corrected on . You guys just are not that much fun lately. I know this sounds heretical, but there are people that make you and Mr. Hoffman sound like Ronald Reagan . I have not worn out my welcome yet on all of them. When I do , well we will see.

    Reply
  17. Politics Room
    September 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    I think the commenters of this website are funnier than the post itself. Let’s get real here. Republicans are at the very least hypocritical and seem to only care about life until people are born! After that? The hell with them! In fact, let’s just execute them!

    Reply
  18. Alan Scott
    September 19, 2011 at 5:50 PM

    Politics Room ,
    At least the ones we kill are convicted. You don’t even want to give the little suckers a trial before you stab em in the head and suck their tiny brains out .

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    • Politics Room
      September 19, 2011 at 8:24 PM

      Here’s one BIG difference. No Democrat that I know is pro-abortion. They just think it should be a woman’s right to choose (a choice no woman makes lightly). Most importantly, and relevant, no Democrat would cheer the abortion of a child like these savages did on that debate.

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  19. Alan Scott
    September 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM

    Politics Room ,

    ” Most importantly, and relevant, no Democrat would cheer the abortion of a child like these savages did on that debate.”

    Big difference, cheering the death of a convicted murderer, who most likely killed his victim in an aggravated manner, compared to an innocent child, who whether you cheered or not was killed in a far more brutal way than the murderer was.

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  20. The Arbourist
    September 20, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    compared to an innocent child

    Embryos/fetuses/blastocysts are not children. Or do you go around with a pumpkin seed calling it a “pumpkin”? Just curious.

    Reply
  21. Alan Scott
    September 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

    The Arbourist,

    Can you tell me where the cut off point is ? When does a Pumpkin seed become a person ? When does it become murder to kill the little pumpkin seed ? For us Conservatives the cutoff point for killing a murderer is when he is convicted of a murder that carries the death penalty . It’s pretty easy . I just want you to draw me the line of personhood that you believe in.

    I’m getting a little concerned about you Canadians. There is a story about a Canadian woman, Katrina Effert who strangled her son after having him in secret. She was just given a suspended sentence. So now the little pumpkin seed was almost a real person, but not quite. I’m not up on all of the twists of Canadian law. Apparently there is a distinction between murder and infanticide.

    Reply
  22. Alan Scott
    September 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM

    The Arbourist ,

    ” We tend to assign personhood after you’ve been born. Easy. ”

    You punted .

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