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Christian Priests: Professional Perverts

by Ben Hoffman

A Catholic priest in Kansas City, Mo has been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of taking indecent photographs of young girls, most recently during an Easter egg hunt just four months ago.

Bishop Robert Finn of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph has acknowledged that he knew of the existence of photographs last December but did not turn them over to the police until May.

A civil lawsuit filed last week claims that during those five months, the priest, the Rev. Shawn Ratigan, attended children’s birthday parties, spent weekends in the homes of parish families, hosted the Easter egg hunt and presided, with the bishop’s permission, at a girl’s First Communion.

“All these parishioners just feel so betrayed, because we knew nothing,” said Thu Meng, whose daughter attended the preschool in Father Ratigan’s last parish. “And we were welcoming this guy into our homes, asking him to come bless this or that. They saw all these signs, and they didn’t do anything.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/us/15bishop.html

Well, what do you expect when you have grown men who prohibited from having sex and who promote bizarre beliefs such as the “afterlife” and “immaculate conception” and all sorts of other crazy stuff. Nobody is surprised any more when these nuts act like the perverts they are.

Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:47 AM in Politics, Religion, U.S. News, World News   |  RSS feed |   Reply   |   Trackback URL

25 Comments to “Christian Priests: Professional Perverts”

    
  1. Patrick O'Malley (@617patrick)
    August 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    The details of the case are much worse than the New York Times had space to report.

    Bishop Finn ignored a 4 page memo from a school principal detailing Ratigan’s pedophile behavior. He knew about a computer full of child porn, but called a police friend and described one photograph instead of giving the computer to the police. He gave the computer to Ratigan’s family, after supposedly making a copy.

    Finn should go to jail, and there should be a Grand Jury investigation to see what other pedophiles he was hiding.

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  2. Pangolin
    August 15, 2011 at 3:37 PM

    Please don’t single out Catholics on this. This is an issue with any religion that places excess authority in the hands of official church leaders. Baptist ministers, Jehovah’s Witness Elders, Mormon Bishops and any other authority in religion require extra diligence due to their ability to exercise social and economic control over their followers.

    Logically the way to reduce these incidences of abuse would be to switch to all female clergy. Obviously there is some resistance to this concept.

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  3. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM

    Odd though, how every nation that tried to build a workable system apart from God in modern times ended up with a dictatorship that murdered and enslaved it’s own citizenry.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

      Our system has worked fairly well, except when religious fanatics get elected to office. But theocracies are generally disasters. Just look at Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan… well, just look at any country where belief in a deity is merged with the government. There is no possible outcome other than disaster because belief in a deity is crazy in this day and age.

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      • Frank
        October 20, 2011 at 6:57 PM

        I want to CAREFULLY agree with you. There is a movement of wayward Christians, called the “Dominionist” movement, led by C Peter Wagner, Dutch Sheets, Cindy Jacobs and other weirdos.

        They claim to be Christians, but are not. They believe that they have to take over 7 mountains of culture, and only then can Jesus come back. If they gain power in this country, it will be disastrous for non-Christians, and Bible believing Christians alike.

        Basically, they will use the authority they THINK is from God to persecute all the “heretics” which is, everyone who disagrees with them.

        That said, I think as long humans try to run a theocracy, it very likely will only end badly.

        Until Jesus Himself reigns, I wouldn’t want to live in a theocracy.

  4. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM

    And yet, absent a diety, atheist governments in Russia killed 12 million, China estimated 60 million, high numbers in Cambodia, and that doesn’t even cover the torture, slavery, etc. The reason that the Constitution works so well is that it was designed by Christian men for a virtuous (i.e., Christian) nation. As we see secular liberalism in ascendancy overseas and in the US, we now see mob rule and lawlessness increasing. Hardly a testament to the superiority of atheism.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 7:06 PM

      More people died in the name of Christianity than any other religion in history. And our founding fathers made it clear that they wanted a separation of church and state because they knew the dangers of you wackos getting power. What they should have done is written right into the Constitution that people who are religious CANNOT run for office. We wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in right now. We wouldn’t have had Bush Jr. kill 100s of thousands of people in his war on Iraq after “God told him” to invade. You goddamn religious people are crazy.

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  5. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    BTW – With regards to your Colbert comment on the right of the web page: Statistics show that regular church attenders give about three times as much in money, blood, and volunteerism compared to non-attenders. That makes it rather easy to identify who really doesn’t want take care of the poor and needy, don’t you think?

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM

      First of all, they generally give at church, which often makes the church leaders filthy rich, but religious people are pathological liars, so that poll can’t be reliable in the first place.

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  6. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 7:28 PM

    “More people died in the name of Christianity than any other religion in history.”

    Possible, but not likely since Islamists are pretty violent to this day and Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists also have their own marshal tendencies. Even if that were the case, and I am not stipulating that, the numbers killed in the name of Christianity are still dwarfed by the numbers killed trying to eliminate Christianity and other religions. The Crusades, for example, killed roughly 17,000 over a century. In the 20th century, athiests killed roughly 100,000,000 trying to eliminate religion and perfect man absent religion. Where I come from, that makes atheism approximately 100,000 times as violent as Christianity. No contest.

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  7. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 7:32 PM

    “What they should have done is written right into the Constitution that people who are religious CANNOT run for office. We wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in right now.”

    Again, this was done in the atheist regimes. The result was slaughter, deprivation, and tyranny. As for Bush killing “100’s of thousands,” he didn’t. American caused causualties were light, and they were combatants for the most part, unlike atheists who deliberately killed women, children, teachers, intellectuals, etc. And if you read the first Amendment, it does not limit the effect of the church. It limits the what the state can do. At the time of the signing of the Constitution, several states, Rhode Island comes to mind, had state mandated religion. The signers wanted to make sure that the Federal government would not interfere. Unfortunately, they ended up doing just that.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 7:53 PM

      Again, this was done in the atheist regimes. The result was slaughter, deprivation, and tyranny.

      The difference is, those slaughters weren’t done in the name of atheism. They were a byproduct of totalitarian regimes. Any totalitarian regime is going to have oppression and violence against the people. You religious nuts are promoting an oligarchy in our country, which will result in power held by the wealthy and oppression and violence against the people.

      And while the slaughters in atheist regimes weren’t done in the name of atheism, the other slaughters were very much done in the name of Christianity.

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  8. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 7:38 PM

    “First of all, they generally give at church, which often makes the church leaders filthy rich, but religious people are pathological liars, so that poll can’t be reliable in the first place.”

    Your implication that most church leaders are wealthy reveals your ignorance of most churches, but let’s set that aside for now. You are incorrect also in your assertion about most giving going to the church. A good deal does, to be sure, but churches primarily support communities, and a lot of donations have nothing to do with church. As for religious people being “pathological liars” I think you are engaging in projection, but it doesn’t matter since the donations are verified through tax receipts. A great example is President Obama when it comes to the genorisity of liberals. He and his family gave a pittance until he realized that people had begun paying attention, and then he bumped it up to about 5%. Bush was way ahead of him in charitable giving for decades. You can also include the Soros crowd. They always seem to push for higher taxes, supposedly on themselves, but can’t seem to realize that they can give as much to the government as they want. Oh, that’s right: They do give as much as they want, which is pathetic.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM

      You can also include the Soros crowd.

      You’re a liar. From Wikipedia:

      Soros has been active as a philanthropist since the 1970s, when he began providing funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa,[46] and began funding dissident movements behind the iron curtain.

      Soros’ philanthropic funding includes efforts to promote non-violent democratization in the post-Soviet states. These efforts, mostly in Central and Eastern Europe, occur primarily through the Open Society Institute (OSI) and national Soros Foundations, which sometimes go under other names (such as the Stefan Batory Foundation in Poland). As of 2003, PBS estimated that he had given away a total of $4 billion.[41] The OSI says it has spent about $500 million annually in recent years.

      Time magazine in 2007 cited two specific projects – $100 million toward Internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities; and $50 million for the Millennium Promise to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa – while noting that Soros has given $742 million to projects in the U.S., and given away a total of more than $7 billion.[47]

      Other notable projects have included aid to scientists and universities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, help to civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, and Transparency International. Soros also pledged an endowment of €420 million to the Central European University (CEU). The Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus and his microfinance bank Grameen Bank received support from the OSI.

      According to National Review[48] the Open Society Institute gave $20,000 in September 2002 to the Defense Committee of Lynne Stewart, the lawyer who has defended alleged terrorists in court and was sentenced to 2⅓ years in prison for “providing material support for a terrorist conspiracy” via a press conference for a client. An OSI spokeswoman said “it appeared to us at that time that there was a right-to-counsel issue worthy of our support.”

      In September 2006 Soros pledged $50 million to the Millennium Promise, led by economist Jeffrey Sachs to provide educational, agricultural, and medical aid to help villages in Africa enduring poverty. The New York Times termed this endeavor a “departure” for Soros whose philanthropic focus had been on fostering democracy and good government, but Soros noted that most poverty resulted from bad governance.[49]

      He received honorary doctoral degrees from the New School for Social Research (New York), the University of Oxford in 1980, the Corvinus University of Budapest, and Yale University in 1991. Soros also received the Yale International Center for Finance Award from the Yale School of Management in 2000 as well as the Laurea Honoris Causa, the highest honor of the University of Bologna in 1995.

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  9. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM

    “The difference is, those slaughters weren’t done in the name of atheism. ”

    Really? Is that the reason that faith groups were prime targets? Of course they were totalitarian regimes: That’s what people come up with apart from God! Tell me: Where are the regimes founded by atheists that didn’t end up in slaughter?

    “You religious nuts are promoting an oligarchy in our country, which will result in power held by the wealthy and oppression and violence against the people.”

    If that were the case, then the religious people would be commtting the violence. They aren’t. The unions are. The liberals are. Check the web. When violence occurs at rallies, it’s liberal causes. Illegal immigration. Wealth distribution. What’s happening in London: rioting, looting. Started as a shooting protest, but rapidly became demonstration against property owners. What’s been happening in Greece and other parts of Europe? Rioting because the moochers can’t live off the government.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM

      Where are the regimes founded by atheists that didn’t end up in slaughter?

      Name a theocratic regime that didn’t end up in slaughter.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 10:58 PM

      If that were the case, then the religious people would be commtting the violence. They aren’t.

      Except of course for the OK City bombing, the Norway shooting, all the abortion doctor murders, and of course Hitler. While Hitler probably wasn’t religious himself, he used religion to gain power, like what is happening in our country today.

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  10. Gary Baker
    August 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    Nice article on Wikepedia on Soros. Of course, none of that source work is vetted, either. Neither does it address the charges of money laundering, insider trading, and other various illicit activities lodged against the man. Regardless of that, there is no record of him or pretty much any other liberal consistently over-paying their minimum required taxes to pay down the debt. And whether Soros is a high giver or not, which still isn’t established percentage wise, it still doesn’t affect the overall statistics that church-goers out-give non-goers three to one.

    That’s the secular legacy – Stingy. Murderous. Ill acquainted with truth or logic. It’s you. Live with it.

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    • Ben Hoffman
      August 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

      Neither does it address the charges of money laundering, insider trading, and other various illicit activities lodged against the man.

      Okay, so now if you’re accused of something, that makes it fact. Using that logic, Bush was in on the 9/11 attack since he had close business ties to the Bin Laden family. He also engaged in insider trading. And Reagan made a deal with Iran for the hostages to give him an advantage in the 1980 election. And of course, Fox “news,” your main source for propaganda, hacked into the phones of 9/11 victims.

      Face it… You, like most right-wingers, are a pathological liar, and that’s why you NEED religion in your life.

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  11. Gary Baker
    August 16, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    “Name a theocratic regime that didn’t end up in slaughter.”

    Not the issue. The issue is what happens when a group of Christian men set up a government under Christian principles vice what happens when atheists set up a government absent Godly influence. The answer is that the Christian related nations (US, England, Western Civ) form the free-est, most socially advanced and prosperous countries in the world. The atheists fill mass graves.

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  12. Gary Baker
    August 16, 2011 at 2:45 PM

    Except of course for the OK City bombing, the Norway shooting, all the abortion doctor murders, and of course Hitler. While Hitler probably wasn’t religious himself, he used religion to gain power, like what is happening in our country today.

    Better check your sources (if secular liberals did that). McVeigh was a drug using self described agnostic. “Science is my religion,” he declared, which kind of accounts for the violence. The Norway shooting is still under investigation, though that looks a lot like a crazy case, not a religious case.

    Interesting that you are willing to give a pass to one of the greatest mass murderer atheists, Hitler, by saying he used religion to gain power. You claimed that the religious were pathological liars. What about the atheists? What about Stalin, Lenin, and all the other atheists who lied by claiming the wanted to “free” the people, and then gave them death and imprisonment?

    Abortion killers. I am really glad they were caught and punished. All seven or eight of them. Again, compared to the millions that atheist killed in the 20th century and the continuing death in the 21st, sounds relatively tame.

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  13. Gary Baker
    August 16, 2011 at 2:50 PM

    “Okay, so now if you’re accused of something, that makes it fact. ”

    That’s the logic you specialize in, isn’t it? Look at the title of your article. Look at your denouncement of religious types as pathological liars. Your whole thesis is based on stereotyping, and at the fringe edges.

    As for Regan making a deal with Iran, yes, I can see how Iran was scared to death of Carter and eager to make the more passive Regan head of our military.

    Again you call me a liar and with little cause. I will not return the insult however. I will let you accuse yourself.

    “The difference is, those slaughters weren’t done in the name of atheism. They were a byproduct of totalitarian regimes.”

    “What they should have done is written right into the Constitution that people who are religious CANNOT run for office.”

    The atheist naturally seeks a totalitarian regime, crowding out other view points and freedom of speech. You can’t help it.

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  14. Frank
    October 20, 2011 at 6:47 PM

    I would argue that mainline Catholicism isn’t Christianity, but rather paganism with a Christian face lift.

    there’s a former priest, Richard Bennett who realize Catholicism actually wasn’t Biblical. His site is here http://www.bereanbeacon.org/

    There’s also the whole issue of papal infallibility, purgatory, indulgences, Mary worship and A TON of stuff that isn’t in the Bible. So it’s no surprise these priests are perverts, because they aren’t actually Christians. Most of them anyways.

    For a real interesting look at Catholics, look for Russ Dizdar’s look at Catholics. That’ll rock anyone’s world.

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