Palin Says We Need To Impose Sanctions On Iraq. Yikes!

by Ben Hoffman

Palin: Crack Down On ‘Iraq’ To Prevent Nuclear Iran

She also pronounces Ahmadinejad’s name wrong.

Sarah Palin has no understanding of foreign policy, economics, law, or pretty much anything that would even remotely qualify her to serve in public office. But she espouses love of God and country and that makes her good enough for right-wingers. She’s one of them.

It makes right-wingers feel good to see just an average Joe (or Jane in this case) in the national spotlight. It elevates their sense of self-worth. That’s why right-wingers loved George W. Bush. Although he came from a wealthy family, he showed them a facade of being just an ordinary guy without much education. And he was president. He was THEIR president. And that made them feel good.

With Obama, right-wingers see a highly educated, articulate, professor type, and that makes them uncomfortable. The fact that he’s black makes it even worse for their self-esteem. After all, they used to be able to blame their problems on poor people — mainly minorities, but now there’s a minority in the White House! It’s no wonder they’re so upset.

29 Comments to “Palin Says We Need To Impose Sanctions On Iraq. Yikes!”

  1. Mr. Hoffman,

    You lefties sure are reaching for anything to slam Governor Palin aren’t you? Any fair minded person would realize that Governor Palin merely misspoke and changed the word Iran in to Iraq. You guys must have an army of bored nerds going over everything Palin says or does.

    I mean it’s not like she visited 57 states like Obama did. I know cause he said so. It was one of the few times that he was clear about.

    How about Mr. Global Warming himself, Al Gore. Mr. Gore apparently believes the warming is already further advanced than any of us has realized. On Conan O’Brien he stated that the Earth’s core temperature was several million degrees. I always thought it was 7000-13000 degrees Fahrenheit. But then what do I know compared to a Nobel Peace Prize Winner?

  2. [I mean it’s not like she visited 57 states like Obama did.]

    Ha! You’re still whining about that. The pathetic part of it is, there are 57 states.

    State: the territory, or one of the territories, of a government. (from Dictionary.com)

    There are the 50 federated states, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, District of Columbia, and the Outlying islands. That makes 57. 🙂

    [I always thought it was 7000-13000 degrees Fahrenheit. But then what do I know compared to a Nobel Peace Prize Winner?]

    You always thought? You’re so full of crap your eyes are brown.

  3. Sorry Mr Hoffman you can try to spin the 57 states fiasco by Herr Obama but there are only 50 STATES territories ARE NOT STATES, but we all know how liberals like to rewrite history so I guess no surprise that you now what to change how many states we have. As for pointing to Ms Palins lack of qualifications I seem to recall that the current president had even less experience then her….and that did not stop liberals from electing him and what a disaster that has been for America, thank God he is one term only.

    • [As for pointing to Ms Palins lack of qualifications I seem to recall that the current president had even less experience then her]

      Yeah, serving as mayor of a tiny town and then as governor of a state with a population about the same as Denver is vast experience. Obama served in the state senate and then in the U.S. Senate. But Obama’s main qualification is something right-wingers don’t consider important: intelligence. Sarah Palin is a blithering idiot, which is why you right-wingers love her; she’s one of you. 🙂

  4. Mr. Hoffman,

    “State: the territory, or one of the territories, of a government. (from Dictionary.com)

    There are the 50 federated states, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, District of Columbia, and the Outlying islands. That makes 57. 🙂 ”

    I have to hand it to you. In defending President Obama, you will say anything. I will prove that you are wrong. Try this for logic. To get to 57 you are including the listed territories, OKAY. Now Candidate Obama said this.

    ” I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.”

    Now for your words to be true, then Obama would have had to campaign in those “States”. I can’t prove that he did not, but I doubt like hell he committed valuable time and money to American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and the Outlying islands. Prove he went to those places.

    Also he said that after visiting all 57 States that he thought he had one to go. Are you still with me?? Since YOU just admitted 7 new States in to the Union. What is the 58th State????

    I can’t wait to see what it is. I for one want to welcome these new Americans who I have never heard of, in to our great country.:) 🙂

    • Mr. Hoffman,

      I have to admit I just made an incredibly stupid mistake. After rereading my last post I realized that my math was even worse than Obama’s. Standing on one foot I now freely acknowledge my mistake. Obama said that he was not allowed to go to Alaska and Hawaii and still had visited 57 States. With one to go, that actually puts the total to 60.

      So instead of just one new State we actually now have 3 added to the 7 which you previously named. I have to hand it to President Barak Obama. In the short course of his candidacy and Presidency, he has grown the number of States by 20%. That is a truly historic accomplishment.

  5. Oh yeah those 143 days he served in the Senate really gave hi a lot of experience. How many bills did mr excitement introduce while there for 143 days……let me help ZERO a real deer in headlights kind of guy.

  6. The present, overwhelming hostility toward the president seems to be rooted in several things. First, I think that the conservatives are simply pissed that they were voted out of office in 2006 and 2008. No one likes being voted out of power. Second, I truly think that many conservatives have a problem with Obama being a minority. This is why they’re always using terms like “socialist”, “Hitler”, “fascist”, “Marxist”, etc. to describe him. All those words mean, to Americans, ENEMY and UN-AMERICAN. He is an “other”, someone not like them. To them, Obama doesn’t represent their America…but Sarah Palin does.

    Like you said, Ben, Sarah Palin professes to love God and America, and she’s folksy, someone average people can relate to. I completely understand what makes her so popular among right-wingers, but right-wingers don’t seem to understand that there’s no substance with Palin. There’s no real experience, no deep understanding of government, of the Constitution, or of law. Like George W. Bush, Palin is someone they can have a beer with, someone who they could watch sports with. She’s simple and nicely unburdened by education or experience. The perfect right-wing superstar!

  7. You people always want to play the race card and the disdain that majority of America has for Obama is not because he is of mix race, America is against him because of his policies, his lack of experience and the fact he is more worried about where the cameras are for his closeup vs how many troops are being killed because he is unable to make a decision while jetting around the world bowing to people.

  8. Sleepygirl,

    I always try to find common ground with the other side. It’s just the way we right wingers are. So you said the following which I partially agree with.

    “First, I think that the conservatives are simply pissed that they were voted out of office in 2006 and 2008.”

    True, just like you guys were previously. However, it is far more than that. The socialist path of high taxes, high spending, class warfare, high deficits, and weak defense scare the hell out of us. We’ve seen it all before and know where it leads. Some of us, not only know history, we have also lived through this crap before.

    “Second, I truly think that many conservatives have a problem with Obama being a minority. ”

    Why don’t you put this red herring away. That fish really stinks. How about this. You folks have a problem with Governor Palin because the reality of a woman Chief Executive scares you.

    “This is why they’re always using terms like “socialist”, “Hitler”, “fascist”, “Marxist”, etc. to describe him”

    Unlike you we base our opinions of President Obama on his actions, not his race. You guys are the ones who praised him on his being the first black President. That actually is racism.

    Let us now discuss the terms you listed. Hitler and fascist were used to describe President Bush more often than President Obama. Socialist and Marxist. I doubt you even are educated on their meanings. They basically mean property rights are not recognized. Wealth is taken from producers and given to Government clerks to redistribute to the poor and politically well connected.

    Gee, sounds like stimulus, green power subsidies, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.

    Now Governor Palin. What did she ever do???? She went against her own party in Alaska. Has Obama ever done that. She got a huge natural gas pipeline project rolling, which none of her male predecessors managed to do.

    • You seriously believe that left-wingers are scared of Palin because she’s a woman? We are the party of the women’s rights movement. I was a supporter of Hillary Clinton for president before I ever supported Obama. I live in a state that has a woman governor, several other female legislators, and both of our U.S. senators are women.

      Obama’s election was a milestone in American history. It gives hope to millions of Americans that we as a people might actually be able to overcome the stain of racism. Recognizing this is racism? Give me a break.

      Also, don’t make assumptions about my eduction. I know very well what a Marxist is and what a fascist is. I’ve read Marx and Engels…have you? To make the leap and call Obama’s liberal policies socialism is just plain dumb. Yes, he’s liberal. He wants to see more people have health care and fair wages. He wants to encourage equity and fairness. Socialism is a reactionary ideology, one that comes about almost only when there have been extreme abuses heaped on the working classes. It’s not the same thing here. Yes, there are too many people living in poverty, without health care, without job opportunities that will truly improve their situation. But America is not an evil empire that needs to be radically altered. Some things need to be changed, but no one disputes that. Obama doesn’t want to turn America into a socialist state. Remember this, if nothing else: liberals live freedom and liberty just as much as you do.

      • Obviously, I meant that liberals LOVE freedom. I have a bandage on my right index finger, so forgive my sucky typing. 😛

      • Hi sleepygirl – let me add:

        Alan and others cry about what Obama is or does. We need to remind him that the citizenry of this country elected Barack Obama becasue of what he is and what he wanted to do.

      • Sleepygirl said:Obama’s election was a milestone in American history.

        It is, and at the same time it is not. Mr.Obama has not shown himself to be particularly progressive or faithful to his base of support. An improvement over Bush? Certainly, but what of “Hope” and “Change”? A relevant issue to what is happening with US politics is that essentially both major parties represent the business class and therefore are generally unresponsive to the demands of the people.

        Socialism is a reactionary ideology, one that comes about almost only when there have been extreme abuses heaped on the working classes.

        Reactionary? In what sense of the word are you describing Socialism? Socialism is not a radical program, rather it aims to promote a more egalitarian society.

        But America is not an evil empire that needs to be radically altered.

        I would suggest that America does require radical change. A party representing the working class might be start.

        Obama doesn’t want to turn America into a socialist state.

        Letting people define the context of the discussion allows them to argue in their terms. The idea of evil=socialism is one the toxic memes that is floating around. If you allow your opponents to make this assumption, you are giving them ground they do not deserve.

        I’ve read Marx and Engels…have you?

        I have as well, although it was awhile back. Class struggle and exploitation are not anachronistic terms or irrelevant to the situation in the US. On the contrary, they are highly relevant and useful concepts when analyzing the socioeconomic fabric of a country.

    • [The socialist path of high taxes, high spending, class warfare, high deficits, and weak defense scare the hell out of us]

      And if that is so, why in the world didn’t you speak up five years ago? Perhaps you did and I missed it?

      Check out this chart:

    • Hitler and fascist were used to describe President Bush

      Dictionary.com says:
      fas⋅cist
      –noun
      1. a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
      2. (often initial capital letter) a member of a fascist movement or party.
      3. a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

      The third meaning is the term in question that would apply most succinctly to Mr.Bush. Via the Patriot Act, Executive Orders and other legislation he often did act dictatorially. Also, during the Bush years the ties between corporate america and the government were significantly enhanced: Haliburton, Blackwater, Brown and Root, Exxon and many others benefited greatly from the Bush presidency.

      A characteristic of Fascism is the close relationship between the government and the business class. This most certainly did exist during the Bush years (and continues to benefit today). Therefore it would be accurate to describe Bush as having fascist tendencies, because it is factual.

      “more often than President Obama. Socialist and Marxist”

      The terms Socialist and Marxist are not accurate terms in describing Obama as he is neither.

      Marxism as defined by dictionary.com:
      Marx⋅ism
      –noun
      the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, esp. the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society.

      Obama is clearly not a Marxist, nor a Socialist as socialism deals with who owns the means of production in society and as of yet I have yet to see sweeping nationalization happening in the US.

      Wealth is taken from producers and given to Government clerks to redistribute to the poor and politically well connected.

      Redistribution of wealth tends to make a society more just as inequality tends to polarize people and accentuate class divisions. Under the current system, the rich have socialism, so why not the poor as well?

      It’s just the way we right wingers are.

      I find most right wingers intolerant, quick to anger, and ideologically blinded to reason.

      When not trying to establish basic facts( what socialism/marxism is and how it is not intrinsically evil et cetera), I am constantly required to wade through a sea of propaganda laced invective, bountiful strawmen and vicious ad hominem attacks.

      Nothing out of the ordinary as corporatism and social conservatism are the dominant paradigm in the US and dissent from these two ideas is never welcomed. It is necessary, and I’m happy to do so. 🙂

  9. sleepygirl,

    “You seriously believe that left-wingers are scared of Palin because she’s a woman?”

    She is attacked right now, more than any other Republican figure. Her ideology is roughly the same as other potential Republican challengers for 2012.

    Now it’s either BECAUSE she is a woman,,,,or because she has the most potential to win. That is really her sin,,,,,isn’t it????

    “Obama’s election was a milestone in American history”

    Because of the color of his skin. No other reason.

    “Also, don’t make assumptions about my eduction. I know very well what a Marxist is and what a fascist is. I’ve read Marx and Engels…have you? [edited due to name calling]

    But I do make assumptions based on your writings. I have not read much from Engels. I’ve read some Marx because I’ve been directed to his writings by Marxists that I have argued with.

    I will assume that both Marxism and Capitalism are only theories that you took classes on in college. You obviously have never run a business or even worked for one where you had to be concerned for it’s survival. You also have never studied the people who have immigrated from Eastern Europe to the US. These folks grew up with the evils of socialism. When they become Americans the become some of the greatest capitalists we have. They know the false promises of socialism. They know where your hero is leading us, because they have seen it before.

    Ms Holland,

    “Alan and others cry about what Obama is or does. We need to remind him that the citizenry of this country elected Barack Obama becasue of what he is and what he wanted to do.”

    I could say that is why Bush was reelected in 2004. I also believe that the voters deluded themselves and thought Obama would rule from the center. They also wanted to prove that they were not racists. Reality is setting in fast.

    If your guy does not start turning the jobs problem around he will be another Jimmy Carter.

    By the way. Where are the 5 million green jobs? The man has had 10 months and 700 odd billion dollars in his slush fund to produce them.

    • But I do make assumptions based on your writings. I have not read much from Engels. I’ve read some Marx because I’ve been directed to his writings by Marxists that I have argued with.

      I will assume that both Marxism and Capitalism are only theories that you took classes on in college. You obviously have never run a business or even worked for one where you had to be concerned for it’s survival. You also have never studied the people who have immigrated from Eastern Europe to the US. These folks grew up with the evils of socialism. When they become Americans the become some of the greatest capitalists we have. They know the false promises of socialism. They know where your hero is leading us, because they have seen it before.

      Wow. Your arrogance knows no bounds! Yes, I’ve studied economic and political theory in school. I’ve studied history and sociology. I’ve studied poverty and racism. Now, how does that work against me? Being educated is a bad thing? And no, I’ve never owned my own business, but I have managed them and been extremely concerned for their survival. It’s been up to be to come up with sales and marketing strategies, I’ve been help solely responsible for payroll, inventory, and sales budgets. So…maybe your assumptions should just stop now, huh?

      And I had to laugh again…the voters believed that Obama would “rule from the center”? Oh, please. Everyone knew he was a liberal. And I love how Obama has been expected to fix the problems of the 8-year long disaster that was the Bush administration in 10 months. Good lord, give the man a break. Maybe if the Republicans in Congress would stop being the party of “No” and be willing to work with Democrats, our government could actually get some stuff done.

      • Sleepygirl says: Yes, I’ve studied economic and political theory in school. I’ve studied history and sociology. I’ve studied poverty and racism. Now, how does that work against me?

        They way it works against anyone who has a modicum of intelligence when debating politics. You have proven you can debate coherently and not swallow the usual conservative palaver without pointing out how inane it actually is. Therefore you must be a egghead, ivy league, cloistered intellectual who’s opinion is so out of touch with the ‘common man’ it is not worth listening to.

        Being educated is a bad thing?

        The anti-intellectual streak runs wide and deep in america, get used to it.

        Now quoting Alan Scot: you also have never studied the people who have immigrated from Eastern Europe to the US. These folks grew up with the evils of socialism.

        Wow, the American Dream Myth in spades. Most immigrants came over and were summarily exploited by the existing capitalist infrastructure. It is only through trade unionism and other ‘evil socialist’ policies that immigrants could begin to make a reasonable living.

        They know the false promises of socialism.

        This sort of dichotomous thinking really does nothing for either side. There is great evil associated with capitalism as well, but no trumpets are sounded for that. Because you think capitalism is right it can do no wrong in your eyes.

        I realize these are assumptions, however, reading your comments I’ve concluded that extending a charitable reading to your opponents position is not currently in your methodology.

        Therefore, why should anyone not debate the bleakest case against capitalist ethos versus your arguments (current economic debacle, World.com, Enron, et cetera)? It would be easy to make the case that if any system is ‘evil’ it would be capitalism.

    • [“Obama’s election was a milestone in American history”
      Because of the color of his skin. No other reason.]

      Alan – that’s WHY it was a milestone. And I suppose you think it’s racist for the country to know that? He wasn’t elected because of his skin color; he was elected in spite of it. And that’s why it was historic.

      [By the way. Where are the 5 million green jobs? The man has had 10 months and 700 odd billion dollars in his slush fund to produce them.]

      You refer of course to the $700 billion TARP bailout from Bush. I don’t think he and Paulson put it into a ‘slush fund’ for Obama. I seem to remember some banks being bailed out last year. And AIG too. Also, Alan, a good $400 billion isn’t scheduled to be used till 2010. We’ve assigned $300 billion so far – all of it in September/October/Novemenber of 2008.

  10. The Arbourist,

    I have not really gone after you yet. On another board I argued with a real unabashed Communist who called himself Despicable. Biggest bull shizter this side of Obama that I’ve come across. He said he was “I am a “DIALECTICAL MATERIALIST!”” Which if you look it up is some kind of BS Marxism. You seem to be cut from the same cloth, but perhaps not so impressed with using big words.

    I don’t have the time or energy at the moment to smack you down, but let me deal with this misleading statement of yours.

    “Because you think capitalism is right it can do no wrong in your eyes. ”

    I’ve had forms of that false argument thrown at me for years. I did not have an answer for it for a long time, but now I do. I know all of the faults of capitalism. I’ve read Dickens and other classic authors exposing the faults of the evil rich, but they are merely the faults of all humanity.

    Capitalism, with all it’s warts is still the best economic system ever invented, period. It sure beats the hell out of what you believe. Capitalism is as Winston Churchill said about Democracy, ” Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.”

    Saying that someone thinks their ideology is perfect is a dishonest argument. Search your soul and give me a better one.

    • [I don’t have the time or energy at the moment to smack you down,]

      Is that kind of crap really necessary, Alan? Anybody can pretend to be tough on the internet and you’re not impressing anyone.

  11. Mr. Hoffman,

    [I don’t have the time or energy at the moment to smack you down,]

    Is that kind of crap really necessary, Alan? Anybody can pretend to be tough on the internet and you’re not impressing anyone.”

    As I smacked the keys on my key board while writing my smack down comment, it never occurred to me that anyone would take me literally. I thought the sheer force of my arguments would brutally force surrender from my foes.

    I’m sorry for being too figurative. Next time I will take pains to make my context more obvious.

  12. Arb: “Because you think capitalism is right it can do no wrong in your eyes. ”

    AS: I’ve had forms of that false argument thrown at me for years.

    You see, it really is not an argument. It is a assumption based on the way you talk about alternative forms of economic planning.

    It is wonderful you hold your opinion so strongly, but when arguing, that really does not amount to much.

    When I made that comment it was to highlight the fact that you do not make the slightest effort on this thread so far to give a charitable interpretation of opposing points of view.

    Saying that you are right repeatedly and “louder” does not make you or your opinion any more right.

    Capitalism and democracy are not the same thing. Capitalism works far more efficiently under a totalitarian regime that a democratic one. The capitalism = freedom put forth is patently false.

  13. The Arbourist,

    “When I made that comment it was to highlight the fact that you do not make the slightest effort on this thread so far to give a charitable interpretation of opposing points of view.”

    Guilty as charged. Why should I be charitable to views I believe are destructive?

    We each present facts to back up our beliefs. I have argued with your type for years. When someone points out where I have gotten my facts wrong, I will admit it. Do not hope for more from me.

    Ms. Holland,

    “Happy gobble gobble Arb and Ben and, yeah, you too Alan.”

    Happy Thanksgiving.

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